my hottest take: if you watch the mst3k version of a bad movie, you have not seen that movie.

i am not a David "only counts on a big screen" Lynch purist, but MST3K cut stuff and add funny skits to break up the tedium, even when they aren't talking over the movie.

how dare you have a good time with a good thing and then act like you watched a bad thing. stolen b-movie valor!

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Counterpoint:
*Puma Man*

Saw both versions.
It honestly adds nothing of consequence or interest to the story when you know how Tony Farms lost his parents.

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@xenophora I'm not saying the cut scenes add anything, I'm saying they subtract.

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Well, I generally got "C"s in Math so I'm not really making the distinction here. Another example: In *The Magic Sword* they cut a scene where the kidnapped Princess escapes just long enough to see a badly animated mask on a wall in a tacky foyer and get more upset. They subtracted nothing of importance by removing that scene from the riffed version.

@xenophora these are two examples of boring unnecessary content mst3k cut that the directors didn't. people watching the real version get a longer, worse movie.

@ryan

Up next: which bad movies would benefit if you mashed them up? The most obvious pairing would be *Phase IV* with *Overdrawn At The Memory Bank*. In the future, they could turn back the invasion of killer super-intelligent ants, but no. They have to stick to their anti-anteater bigotry no matter the cost. :/ (A lesson for us all.)

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