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This is such a dumb question that I hesitate to ask it in public: what kind of coding things are there to do if you don't enjoy design? I don't think I'd be good at app development or front-end web development, because I'm not great at making things look good.

@TotallyArbitrary tons! there's a lack of good system and embedded software engineers, and there's always a need for people who can write fast C or C++ code

@moz @TotallyArbitrary yeah, you are in luck, as most programming isn't particularly visual or design-y. :)

@scott Every single thing aimed at potential career changers involves front end web development. Also, bootcamps. Bleh.

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@TotallyArbitrary there are more fun, less corporate ways to learn coding. Let me know if you want any resources. I like hello.processing.org :-)

@scott I've been taking CS classes at the University where I work. Totally fun, and I feel like I have a solid foundation, but it's not real focused on practical skills.