Speaking of DIY skills and such, I think soap and bread are two of the top "it's easier* than it sounds" things you can make and enjoy a direct, material benefit from.

For example, I used to think you needed a bread machine to make bread. Then I realized, "That can't be right. People have made bread for thousands of years."

I think the process of making things like that has become kind of obscured from us in modern life. But you really can just go out and Make A Thing.

And of course, by *easier, I mean that it's entirely feasible for one (1) individual to make these things without complicated or specialized equipment.

It's just kind of a fun, weird "aha!" moment, when you realize that it's within your own power to make something that you've always thought only comes from a store by way of factories.

@katwylder I learned crochet, and it's come in handy in some unexpected ways. One of the cushions wore off on my headphones, and I was able to make a replacement.

@katwylder I do have a bread machine and use it regularly, but it's the kind of device that makes it clear just how unnecessary it is. Like, I could easily mix these ingredients, let them sit, knead them again, let them sit again, and then bake them. I guess I just like the idea that I can delegate keeping track of the timing to an inanimate object.

@Griff @katwylder

growing up, we had a bread machine precursor called a "bread bucket" - i kinda want one because kneading is difficult for me.

@caprimoon That's a really cool machine!

Seems like the kind of thing you might like @scoots :)

@caprimoon @katwylder this is amazing! i'm absolutely putting this on my to-get list... oh my goodness.. even just making pie crusts every now and then i have to sit there for so long and it definitely hurts.

flatbreads are awesome though, they don't take too much mixing (and it's more mixing than kneading and isn't as rough)

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@vivaizix @katwylder
i put it on my list too! the small one looks like my kid could probably operate it so we could take turns.

do you have a go-to flatbread recipe? i need something like that!

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@caprimoon @katwylder @caprimoon @katwylder none for more traditional flatbreads, i'm still getting into those so i try something new each time

what i *do* make all the time is peanut butter bread. the recipe is gluten free/flourless but i like to add a little bit of flour to bulk it up, otherwise it's so moist it tends to go bad quite fast. i haven't tried bananas in place of eggs but i think that might be good too!

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@vivaizix @katwylder
ooh that looks amazing! i'm too low on smooth pb or i'd make it tonight. it looks like a perfect snack for my bread-loving kid. thanks!

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@caprimoon @katwylder yeah it's awesome with jelly and such! but it actually doesn't taste much like peanut butter. it has a sort of medium dark taste, like a very full, lighter rye.

it's SUPER crumbly though so be ready for a small mess 😂

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@vivaizix @katwylder
ha, i am always anticipating a small mess!

it sounds so good!

@Griff That's great! It's so rewarding to be able to fix something yourself, isn't it?

I've never used a bread machine, myself. (I like the kneading.) I imagine they're very handy for people with mobility issues, though!

@katwylder soap and bread are great examples, and easy to use the skills for those two to expand into candles and pizza!

@djsundog @katwylder Yeah, candles are super easy! Or at least, if you have spare wicks, they're dead easy, and wicks don't seem to be *too* hard to make.

I recently used leftover fat from cooking meat to make a candle. It pops and crackles a bit from water I didn't manage to drive out, but it otherwise works perfectly well.


@katwylder You can!

Not to detract from your point, but since it seems relevant, if you have a thrift store near you, there's a good chance they'll have a bread maker for ~$5, and it saves significant amounts of time. (There are certain tradeoffs, but even so, fresh bread!)


@aschmitz @katwylder You can even use the bread machine for the messy / effort requiring bit (kneading), and after the first rise take the dough out of it and proceed in the traditional way (forming bread, further rising, cooking.

That's how I used my bread machine most of the time, back before it broke and I decided not to replace it.

It was convenient to cook bread in it in summer instead of using the oven, however…


@katwylder @valhalla Yup! That's also a good way to make rolls. (Mine also claims to make jellies via controlled heating, but I've never tried.)

@katwylder Do you find that soapmaking particularly saves money or otherwise has tangible benefits over buying soap?

I already make my own bread (no-knead overnight-rise); it's both tastier and significantly cheaper than buying at the store, and going no-knead means it doesn't take more than ten minutes work.

But soap... looks like quite a bit more work, and oil's a lot more expensive than flour.

@katwylder @qwertystop Hi, can you DM me that no-knead, overnight-rise bread recipe? That sounds right up my alley. :D
Also, this thread is amazing, this is what the 'net was made for. IMHO. 🍞

@AesAthena @qwertystop has a whole category of no-knead recipes, too!

@katwylder @qwertystop D: I wanna go with something tried and true and reco'd by an individual. I get easily overwhelmed by gatherings of recipes. LIke...*WAVE OF BABIES except replace BABIES with RECIPES*
But I will bookmark that link. Breadworld sounds like it belongs next to Spatula City.

@AesAthena @katwylder No need to DM; it's on-topic.

100% flour, 70-75% water. 1/4 tsp dry yeast and 1 tsp salt per 10 oz flour.
Mix dry, add water. Mix just until it comes together as one messy lump, cover and let rise for 12-18 hours. Bake as you like; it works for a loaf or a boule. I recommend baking in a Dutch oven; it helps the crust.

Water, yeast, and salt amounts are all flexible.

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@qwertystop @qwertystop Re: costs-- it definitely depends on how you go about it and what oils you use.

If you just want to make bars from something like lard, tallow, or another inexpensive oil, and don't particularly care for aesthetics, you can save money in the long run.

Ex. With the oils I typically use (and 0 additives), I can make 24 bars (which last my household about 3 weeks each), for $1.50/each.

But I treat my soapmaking as a fun hobby, so it costs me about $3-5/each.

@qwertystop The other benefit to making your own soap is that you can control 100% of what goes into it.

A lot of what's on shelves isn't actually *soap* at all. (You'll notice the packaging says something like "beauty bar".) And some folks find those products are hard on their skin.

So if you or a loved one have allerigies or very sensitive skin, or you want just to avoid certain ingredients, you can do that!

It's also just a fun hobby if you like bath products and/or chemistry!

@qwertystop I'm certainly not saying "everyone should do this!" We all have different circumstances and interests.

But I get really excited for more people to know that it's an option. 😃

Well, if you want to make soap, here's a basic questionaire for you:
[ ] Do you want to end the capitalist system?
[ ] Are you willing to make great sacrifices?
[ ] Do you have a split personality?
[ ] Would you like to join a secret club?
[ ] Do you like fighting?

If you said yes to one or more of these questions, congratulations! You're more than ready to make soap! :blobcheeky:

(Sorry, couldn't resist)


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