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Since I'm at it, I think I'll do a little thread of first impressions as I try to copy some of my existing presets from Photoshop. I have used it before, but never extensively, and there's been a new major version since. I'm also on a new hard drive, so this is essentially a clean install, what a treat.

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Bug? Misaimed feature? On first launch, Krita spanned both my screens, not a very useful arrangement at all. Don't think I've seen any other program do this. I guess it just grabs your desktop resolution and sizes itself to some percentage of it?

The default theme feels nice and familiar from Tiled, is this Qt Fusion?

Opened up a template I made in PS. Works perfectly.

I can pan with MMB, fantastic <3

Eraser mode being a toggle is neat, I think most of the time this is more useful than separate Eraser/Brush modes. I will need to get used to just pressing E instead of two separate buttons though...

Opening files feels a bit slow, but I think it's just because there isn't a big fat progress bar in my face, the time's probably fine.

Two questions:

Is there a way to reset the brush size to the preset size without also resetting everything else? I often use that feature in PS.

Is it possible to set shortcuts for Brush in Eraser Mode, Brush Not in Eraser mode, so that I can quickly swap from other tools? In particular, I often need to go from selecting to erasing or painting, but in Krita it seems like I have to always keep an eye on that global eraser mode toggle.

I love the keyboard shortcut UI. It's sorted nicely, and you can see the default shortcut without having to reset your custom one, which is great for when you want to help someone else.

Also love the offset UI of the Resize Canvas dialog. Clicking an anchor updates the offset, inputting a custom offset hides all the anchor points. You can drag the red box representing your current canvas size to adjust the offset too, and you can click the lock buttons to lock that dragging to respect manually-input values.

I've posted screenshots of it on the Tiled Discord, Tiled could really use this way of dealing with resizing offsets.

usability issue: Detaching the canvas causes the docker panels to get large, and they don't go back to being small when the canvas is reattached D:

If possible, the panel sizes for different detach states should be stored separately, so that their sizes don't get clobbered by detaching the canvas.

To be fair, I can't see myself ever using Detach Canvas so I won't count this against Krita xP

Ooh I can customise the toolbars o: Is it possible to add custom toolbars without scripting? I'd love to make comics and pixel art toolbars with some common brush presets for each, and then just change which toolbar is visible.

After a lot of poking around, found File > Open existing Document as Untitled Document..., which is even better than PS's Image > Document since you don't have to open and then close the base document :D I use this a lot for my daily sketches.

Oh no. Zooming with the Zoom tool seems to zoom in by some percentage rather than going in increments of 100% (and 1/2^n for zooming below 100%). Scrolling zooms in stable steps, but has a lot of useless intermediates too.

Is it possible to configure the zooming levels somewhere? I can deal with zooming out being weird, but for zooming in, having anything other than increments of 100% is a big slowdown, especially for pixel art.

In Photoshop, you can double-click the Zoom tool in the toolbar to reset the zoom to 100%, very convenient. In Krita I have to either use the dropdown, or a keyboard shortcut to go back to 100% D: Looks like I can add a button to reset the zoom to a toolbar though :D

The zoom tool icon shows a + even if you're holding Alt to zoom out with it. Made me think I had the wrong modifier xP

Speaking of zooming and modifiers: I like to zoom with ctrl+scrollwheel, and scroll vertically with the scrollwheel.

I was able to set this up in Krita too. For zooming it was trivial (add Ctrl to existing shortcuts). For scrolling, I had to add new shortcuts. I got them backwards initially, because the terminology is in terms of the "camera", so Pan Down = Scroll Up.

The panning is a lot slower than I'd like, though, not very useful. Might just have to MMB pan instead.

Panning around an image in Krita is so much nicer than in PS CS6. Quick and clean/unblurred just like CS3 and older were :>

Just noticed that I can control canvas rotation with the little circle in the status bar, neat! Maybe having rotation so easily available might tempt me to use it more.

I can tag brushes o: This should be great, I can make comics, painting, and pixel art tags and never look at my full brush list again xP

Oh, there are even Pixel Art and Paint tags already, neat :3

I'm still putting off actually importing my brushes though 🤣

This zooming thing has me a bit unhappy too :V Bonus weirdness because above 200%, it starts doubling the zoom every other level, but those intermediate levels are still odd values. 200, 282.8, 400, 565.7, 800, 1131, 1600...
I'd much rather see 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 1200, 1600... I spend a lot of my time in the 600-800 range for pixel art.

Haven't actually drawn anything yet, already writing a script.

Two issues:
1. Wow, does even a simple script need an entire plugin file structure? In PS and Tiled, I can just toss my script file in a directory and it works D:

2. Is it possible to set the current tool via scripts? In the PS version of this script, I do some work with a selection, deselect, and change the tool to Brush, makes things seamless for me.

The answers are:
1. Yes, unfortunately. There also needs to be an .action file that includes your created actions if you want to be able to assign shortcuts to them.

2. It is possible by triggering the action associated with the tool you want, but the action names aren't documented in the action dictionary xP

Time to actually import some brush tips from PS and see if I can figure out how to make comparable brushes in Krita...

But first: this? this is good. PS only lets you apply a filter again, but it's great to have a quick way to get back to its dialog too.

Krita's Enhance > Unsharp Mask filter also seems to do a comparable job to Photoshop's Sharpen > Smart Sharpen filter for sharpening inks, though it's a little fiddlier (which is why I use Smart Sharpen and not PS's own Unsharp Mask).

Imported my brush tips from my Photoshop ABR file. Took... a long time to find the "Edit brush settings" button in the toolbar, kept looking in menus instead.

The settings look comparable. I have to add 180 to the rotation to match PS's, simple enough.

Height texture settings are quite different though, took a looot of messing around to get something good. But I got there in the end.

Very happy to see a "Overwrite Brush Preset" button :D

Also: I'm guessing this tooltip is not correct xP

Is it possible to customise the brush cursors beyond what's in the settings? I like the crosshair, but want it a little smaller.

I also can't seem to find a setting to disable the color sampler preview swatches.
There also seems to be a minor bug where the swatches aren't erased when you switch tools until something else triggers a redraw of that area, and the swatches aren't updated if you swap FG/BG colours while using the color sampler.

Krita sorts brushes (and probably other presets?) by name. This means if you want brushes to show up in a certain order, you have to give them weird names. That explains why the default brushes start with a), b), etc.

This makes reordering annoying, especially since there's no way to rename them in the Resource Manager. Tolerable, but I hope that eventually some sort of separate ordering is added so that presets can be dragged and dropped to reorder.

AND you have to restart Krita for the reordering to take effect. Not fun! You have to get the preset's name perfect the first time you save it if you want to avoid restarts.

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@eishiya The dockers do store their size internally, but for some reason they don't get restored correctly, and we suspect bugs in qMdiArea. We want to replace it and the dockers with KDAB's solution, problem is just finding the time to make the swap.

@eishiya No, custom toolbars aren't possible. Afaik the reason is that the toolbar system is somewhat sensitive.

You can however very easily make a docker and add all sorts of buttons and toggles on it, including the option to select certain brushes etc, but that does require scripting.

for the base document, you can also create a template from any given kra file, but maybe the open existing method is easier for you.

@Wolthera Aye, for these sketches it's definitely easier, since the base file I want to use changes regularly. I will probably look into creating a template for my comic pages though, since that doesn't change.

Can I use a PSD as a base, or does it have to be a KRA? All my other comics-related programs read PSD, so I'd prefer to keep as much of my files in PSD as I can.

@eishiya I think for the templates Krita just saves a fresh kra if you used any other fileformat as the base. Mind, the templates are stored in the resource folder in a very specific folder, so hence why I think your preexisting setup will proly be using 'open existing' instead of the templates.

@Wolthera I'm no stranger to scripting and I suspect I'll have to port some of my PS scripts, so I guess I can look into writing a custom docker at some point xP

@eishiya Nope, ancient issue. You don't have to use the zoom tool however, you can just use +/- for zooming.

@Wolthera I like to use the zoom tool, as what I often do is drag to select an area I want to fit on my screen, and then zoom in to get it to the nearest clean multiple.

When I'm using the stylus, I use my tablet to zoom, it's configured with +/- from PS already xP But -/+ have the same issue as scrolling - annoying intermediate values between multiples of 100% D:

@eishiya you don't need to change tools to edit the selection, it's just under document.selection() (see scripting.krita.org/lessons/se). Note that there's currently no way to select stuff that isn't a rectangle though.

For smaller scripts I use the scripter. Need for plugin structure has to do with code architecture.

@Wolthera Oh no, I mean I *want* to switch the tool. I'd make my selection with the magic wand, then the script will do work on it, and then I want the script to take care of switching back to Brush for me, so I don't have to xP I've got the actual work all done, it's just switching tools I'd like to add.

I need to put this script on hotkey and I'll be using it a *lot*, so I think I need to do the whole thing where I package it as a plugin and give it an .action file so I can hotkey it.

@eishiya if literally only switching the tools is what you want, you should just invoke actions. scripting.krita.org/lessons/ac there's actions to switch between tools. the action for the magic wand is named "KisToolSelectContiguous" and "KritaShape/KisToolBrush" for the switching to the freehand brush tool.

@Wolthera Thank you, this is exactly what I want! I looked around for these values but couldn't find them in the action dictionary.

@eishiya yeah, I had to go into the code to figure them out. The action dictionary is super impressive, and I kinda want something that does the same for the regular manual, but it does seem some files got skipped over.

The guy who is responsible for it is currently porting our wordpress site over to hugo, so I'll delay annoying him over it. :p

@Wolthera Fair enough :3 Thanks for finding them for me!

It woooorks, thank you! I ended up not having space to actually describe what the heck I'm doing before: it's a script I use to speed up filling spot blacks when inking. After drawing an enclosed area, I can magic wand it, and the script will grow the selection by a few pixels, fill it with the foreground colour, deselect, and then go back to the Brush tool so I can keep painting. It's saved me a boatload of time in PS.

@eishiya w-what happened to those fonts? That "I" in Window is very sad

I have no idea. Tiled, another Qt-based program, also has crummy-looking menu fonts on Windows 10 for me. Some letters are also cut off slightly, like "B".
I suspect it's some issue related to anti-aliasing - in Tiled, fonts that are aliased look perfect, at least.
It might also be related to ClearType (subpixel text rendering) being disabled, who knows.

@eishiya Nope, the cursors are hardcoded pixmaps. Color samplers cannot be turned off as far as I know.

As for the swatch redraw thing, this is the first time I hear of it. I can't seem to reproduce it here in any case.

@Wolthera Maybe it's a Windows + hardware acceleration thing.

I can get used to the large crosshair, but the color sampler swatches are very annoying and block a chunk of the area I'm most interested in while sampling. Surprisingly there doesn't seem to be an issue open about that, this seems like something that really ought to have an option in the tool settings.

I'm also surprised that there's not an issue open about the zoom levels. Do people not zoom in beyond 200%? xP

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@eishiya so, this was actually discussed during the massive refactor for 5.0... but by the end of the 5.0 cycle (which has taken several years at that point) we were mostly focused on getting it ready and we decided afterwards we'd all avoid resource work for a while.

@eishiya shortcut ui, it's the power of kde frameworks, KConfigWidget.

@eishiya Switching Eraser mode on/off is just as easy as switching between brushes and erasers: E for eraser mode and b for brush.

Reseting brushsize... I don't know at the moment.

@t_jea That's not how it works for me. I have to press B to go to the brush from whatever other tool I'm on (rectangular select, for example) and then possibly also E to toggle the erase mode. E is a toggle, it turns eraser mode both on and off. Pressing B will switch tools to Brush, but it won't change the eraser mode.

@eishiya Had to check and you are right. Reason for that might be that there is no eraser tool, just the mode for brushes.

@t_jea Yep, that's exactly it. And it's cool, I've got no problem with it. But for Brush specifically, I often need to toggle to it in different modes from other tools, would really love to be able to do that with one button press instead of two ;o; I guess in the worst case I could try scripting it. I'll try to get used to it first though.

@eishiya Just found something that might help you for that: Tools > Scripts > 10 Brushes.

@t_jea This is cool, but sadly not what I need, since it requires a particular preset rather than keeping my current brush preset but just changing the eraser mode.

I'll probably be able to use this to deal with some of my specialty brushes though, thanks :D

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