Hey Fediverse, what's your preferred update pace for long-form #webcomics? (Long-form comics are ones with a continuous story from page to page; compare strips, where each one is usually a new scenario.)
Bonus question: Does a webcomic's update pace affect your desire and ability to leave comments or otherwise participate in its community? If so, in what way(s)?
- Whenever Aaron Diaz gets around to it, which is fine with me
@eishiya I said 3-4 because I feel like that leaves enough room to add enough to the story to be engaging to read in one sitting. If it was 1-2 I would probably wait a few weeks before checking back. But of course, doing art at your own pace that doesn’t burn you out is more important than that.
I haven’t really found the pace to impact if I want to comment, mostly just a stories engagement does that
@eishiya much like the procrastinator i am, i like to wait for a long time to finally sit down and hyperfocus on things
@eishiya My personal preference is reliability over frequency. Like, once a month is fine, if it's around the same day each month. Weekly is good too, and less easy to forget about.
Sure, there's RSS feeds and social media and such that updates can be announced to - but every feed source today is a river, and individual articles get washed away quickly.
@eishiya I know many webcomics are updated on a page-by-page basis but it's sort of the frequency of the updates that matters more to me than the number of pages. As in, if the comic updates once per week, I will read it whether the update is 1 page or 5 or whatever.
@eishiya I tend to not interact with community stuff at all, unless it's directly on mastodon. and how much i recommend a webcomic is primarily based on writing, character development, and how gay it is. 😅
@eishiya pace has less impact on my leaving comments than comment system. I won't use Discus, for instance.
@jessmahler Do you mean Disqus? Is there a particular reason you won't use it? I ask because I also don't like it, but I haven't seen any decent alternatives for self-hosted comics.
@eishiya I don't like needing to log in to leave a comment.
I know some folks are selfhosting with Wordpress using the Comicpress theme
@jessmahler Disqus allows guest commenting, but I think it needs to be enabled by author.
WP has a decent built-in comment system but it's so full of features unnecessary for webcomics and so frequently targeted by hackers that I don't think it's worth using just for its comments.
@eishiya Makes sense.
@eishiya If you have an RSS/Atom/JSON feed, life is good no matter when or how frequently. But these days, if there is no feed, I only visit for a short period of time before I get distracted by family/work/flood.
@eishiya my absolute favorite comic (http://white-noise-comic.com) is on a strict once-a-week schedule, but I enjoy others that go from "oh there's an update weeks/months later? cool!" to "an update every day! yay!" the update schedule isn't nearly as important to me as the content of the comic.
and no, the update pace doesn't influence my desire to comment or participate *at all*. the things that do are 1. ease of participation (it really helps to have a comment section either on the page itself or linked directly from it) 2. a friendly/welcoming community (I'd love to participate more in the "Order Of The Stick" commentaries, but I've seen way too many ugly flamewars to be willing to try) and 3. having something to say about the comic (some that I like a lot, I just... don't feel the need to comment/talk about much).
it also really *really* helps me in following a comic to have them post in a form that allows them to be archived on https://piperka.net. whenever I find a comic I'd like to follow, I add it there, but if it's in a format that won't allow it to be added, I'm very likely to not keep up with it--and that site also helps me keep up with comics that update extremely irregularly!
@troodon Thanks for the detailed answer!
Have you considered also using Archive Binge? It's very similar to Piperka, except it's also able to track updates on some comic sites that Piperka can't. It's newer and thus much smaller, but I really like it and wish its userbase would grow. Adding comics to it is very easy too.
@eishiya ooh, I'll give it a look, thanks for the recommendation! :D
@eishiya I'd probably like as many pages as possible if I'm really into the story, but as someone who's made a comic I know that's unrealistic to expect, I couldn't even manage one page a week lol
@eishiya my impression is that 2 to 3 pages a week is the perfect mix between the creator having enough time to write and draw in enough quality and the audience being constantly engaged as to anticipating the next pages. If it's faster, the readers just will let the comic go by itself and would disengage easily; if slower, conversation about the last events is exhausted.
In any case, all of this depends on the size of the followship.
@matias93 The poll was about reader preference, not what's feasible for the author, but I didn't make that clear :'D
@eishiya Belated reply: I chose 3-4 pages, but it honestly depends on what type of comic it is. Especially with slower-paced stories, single-page updates don't always have all that much going on, so I'm not always that motivated to actually check each time they update. For those, it feels nicer to have a larger chunk of 3-4 pages to read at once. With some comics, I also let the pages accumulate for some time and then read them all in one go, so emulating that with rarer updates can work too
@eishiya (although with those comics, I'd probably still not necessarily check them with each update but whenever I feel like getting back to it)
I've also read long-form comics where each page felt satisfying to read and progressed the story meaningfully on its own even if it was in the middle of a scene and single-page updates once or twice a week worked fine for those
@eishiya For commenting, multi-page updates would probably result in me commenting my overall impressions on the last page of the update unless a specific page has an interesting detail or something similar, so the total number of comments I'd make is probably lower, but it wouldn't have an effect on my willingness to participate generally. Monthly updates might discourage me a bit if they contain a lot of pages since the volume of things to comment on might be overwhelming
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