Hey, kids/young adults who love standing in front of their amps & PA systems during performances:

PLEASE pay attention to the killjoys who tell you to get decent hardwearing earplugs / disposable classic foam plugs while playing.

Because living with tinnitus will start to ruin your life in a big way, and if tinnitus gets beyond tinnitus...well...yeah it's awful.

At the end of the day, you don't wanna be like me with 30% hearing in their left ear in my mid-20s just cuz teen me was ignorant af.

@OsirisSaline I saw Boris perform when I was in high school and I didn't wear protection. My ears were ringing for 2 days. Ever since then I've taken care of my ears.
I got scared straight, I guess


It's always a shock to the system! I'm really glad you managed to clue in immediately cuz I was way too proud of my ignorance for years.

At the very least you're better than me at responding to clearly damaging issues!

@OsirisSaline i've never played, but at 37 a lifetime of power tools, loud shows, and loud work environments means my hearing is garbage and my ears ring constantly.

this is good advice.

while i'm at it, i'm kinda starting to think it'd be better if we could get over this whole "if it's too loud you're too old" trip. i enjoy a crushing wave of bone-shaking sound as much as the next person, but what if maybe (maybe!) we started thinking of doing physical violence to audiences as kind of bad?

@brennen Oh wow, I did engineering work at a very low level as a late-teen and honestly I forgot how terrifyingly loud it was.

And you're so right, the whole "play it loud" ideal is fine as a little punky nod to liking gainier things, but it's destructive.

Then again *glares at certain violence in crowd accepting subcultures* we've got a lot of work to do :/

@OsirisSaline professional grade custom fitted earplugs was one of the best purchases of my life. I survived 2 years of paying bass next to a set of rock drums because of those. With only minor and rare episodes of shortlived tinnitus nowadays - which I attribute to the few times I was slow to put in the earplugs.

As a bonus, they're also great when you become a parent later in life, and have to deal with a screaming baby.

@zatnosk @OsirisSaline

Hey fellow sufferers! I've been suffering constant tinnitus for almost 20 years. I was exposed to a PA system which accidentally got put on too high volume. Luckily my tinnitus gets drowned out by background noise most of the time. But loud noise has felt more painful in my ears ever since. I absolutely hate sirens from ambulances and such.

Don't forget to wear your earplugs everybody!

@zatnosk @OsirisSaline Do custom earplugs alter the timbre of the sound as much as the ones you can buy at your local drum store?

I played mallet percussion (and therefore spent a lot of time with the drumline) in HS and mostly didn’t use ear plugs because I found that I could not keep time as accurately with them in: it’s like they compressed the dynamic range and I no longer had such a sharp attack to latch on to.

@duck57 @OsirisSaline the beauty of custom earplugs is that they lower the sound almost uniformly. Some singers say they're challenge singing with them in, but that's probably because it's actual voice.

I don't know what you can buy at your drummers store, but I'll bet that custom fitted plugs are way better.

@TheGibson <3 I'm so sorry. The eternal variable buzz at night is horrendous and I really wish there was an easier way to cope with it.

@OsirisSaline it's ok... but as I get older, it has slowly gotten worse... I am faifly stoic, so it could always be worse.

@OsirisSaline @noelle I know this is gonna make me sound like An Old but why do they gotta be so loud in the first place? And not just concerts, but like, movies and restaurants and so on, everything's just so LOUD and to the point that I can't enjoy anything at all.

The first time I went to a concert that left my ears ringing I went home and cried because I was afraid I'd ruined my hearing.

@fluffy @noelle honestly I wish I knew why. After audio engineering for venues for years we always had to have an awareness of the DB limits for legal reasons (neighbour complaints, what the building/rooms in particular could stand) but rarely ever got informed of damage to the hearing of individuals :/ considering how many famous music folk (and non-famous too ofc) have quit live music due to it? Ehhhh :/

Ah I'm sorry. Next gig check out some cheap ear protection tho, it'll be 1000x better <3

@OsirisSaline @noelle oh this was like 25 years ago, I’ve worn earplugs every time since then. :)

@fluffy @noelle ah excellent :D

I'm really happy to see replies like this cuz I was so stubborn/ignorant despite being a *amateur teen/pro adult* so yeah! It's cool to see you and other people clued in on it quicker than people like me who frankly knew better & ignored it for some reason???

@noelle @OsirisSaline oh and I always keep several pairs of earplugs in my purse now - because sometimes I’ll see little kids at concerts who are plugging their ears and uncomfortable and I want them to be able to enjoy the music! Their parents are always grateful although I wonder why they didn’t think to get earplugs for their offspring to begin with.

@fluffy @noelle ooh! That's so nice!

Hopefully in a generations time there'll be some sort of social-side movement so venues start putting up posters about it. I mean, some do already, but if venues could give out cheap foam plugs for 20 cents it'd be a great step in saving people's hearing.

@OsirisSaline @noelle some venues just give them out for free and that’s awesome but all too rare. Sometimes I’ve just done the back of putting wadded up napkin in my ears - it’s not great but it’s better than nothing.

@OsirisSaline @fluffy @noelle I suspect the reason it’s got to be played so loud is so the audience can’t ruin the performance with their conversations. The opposite approach to classical music’s code of silence in the concert hall.

@duck57 @OsirisSaline @noelle I guess that sorta makes sense? I've played shows in smaller venues and had issues where the audience just would not SHUT THE H*CK UP and listen to my music and it was really frustrating.

@OsirisSaline so so so much this. I haven't had it checked out, but im 100% positive that my rock n roll high school garageband days trashed my hearing pretty bad. "Huh?" is certainly my most common phrase when talking to people

@OsirisSaline Wish I could boost this louder than usual. (Oh, the irony)

@OsirisSaline wait beyond? I have tinnitus and my ears are crap. the ringing could drive me insane

@LottieVixen "beyond" may be bad phrasing cuz some extra conditions come alongside tinnitus/evolve out of further traumas...

But sometimes stuff like hyperacusis develops, and it's next level wtfismylife type stuff.

@LottieVixen s'all easy to have a google of cuz it's all tied into other things, better than hearing non-med me speaking on it tbh

@OsirisSaline oh gosh....I already have that annoyance from common sounds thing i forget the name, eugh if it got worse...gosh

@OsirisSaline This was me, being an on-air DJ and doing with headphones and at live shows, and my right ear. Great advice!

@OsirisSaline My wife has very disruptive tinnitus after working as an audio typist. Tinnitus is an "always-on" distressing distraction. Birdsong is now outside of her hearing because the noisier aspect of the complaint is in the higher range.

Working in a noisy office she habitually had the volume on her headset wacked right up.

Be mindful that damage to your hearing is often permanent and very easily caused.

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